Matt and Mark at IGN Disagree with TEN Score
Well, well this is a surprise. I had hoped strongly that Matt Cassamina or Mark Bozon, both platformer people and from the IGN Nintendo section might do the Wii review for Eternal Night. Mark gave the console versions of A New Beginning 7.7's all around. That score was, in my opinion, great! I was in shock when I saw that IGN scored TEN at 3.5 for PS2. I frequent the Wii and DS sections at IGN (like double or triple daily) and thought that one of their regular reviewers would do a new review for the Wii port. When it got a 3.6, copy and pasted review I lost a lot of faith in IGN.
Who was 'Sam Bishop', this review was the first I'd ever heard of him. After a Googling I found these other reviews by him.
7/10 - Freestyle BMX 2 (PS2)
7/10 - Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring (PS2)
4.5/10 - SWAT Target Liberty (PSP)
9.2/10 - Hot Shots Golf 2 (PSP)
6/10 - Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Tag Force 2 Review (PSP)
7/10 - CSI: 3 Dimensions of Murder (PS2)
4.5/10 - Super PickUps (PS2)
3/10 - Crusaders of Might and Magic (PS1)
5.5/10 - NASCAR 08 (PS2)
7/10 - Fireblade (PS2)
7.5/10 - CUBE (PSP)
8/10 - SingStar Rocks! (PS2)
Mmmh hmm.
Well not a very big amount but out of twelve games only one was lower than Spyro. I can't speak for these games as I've never played any of them but somehow I feel, even if I hated Spyro, that TEN was as good as or better than some of these. Call me crazy but it's just an inkling. Matt and Mark agree though, and discussed it in their latest Wii-centric podcast. Here's a summary of what they had to say:
- They didn’t review it, but they did play it and they think it deserved a better score.
- About the game visual-wise as the Gamecube game. Pretty good presentation and production values.
- Control is fine for what it was - nothing stand-out but nothing bad.
I felt the same about it.
To listen to the podcast with the discussion it it follow This link
Continuing my 'rant'...look at ALL the scores out there right now:
PS2
6.3/10 = Game Informer Magazine
6/10 = Games Radar Site
3.5/10 = IGN Site
6/10 = Game Daily Site
8.4/10 = GamingTrend Site
6/10 = Playstation 2 UK Magazine
7/10 = Geekpulp Site
Current Average = 6.2/10
Remove IGN's score and you get 6.6 for an average.
Interesting how if IGN averaged their scores this game would have been a 6.3
Let's take a similar look at the actual Wii Scores:
Wii
8.5/10 = Play Magazine
5.5/10 = Nintendo Wii FanBoy Site
6.7/10 = Game Zone Site
7/10 = BlogCritics Magazine
7/10 = Cheat Code Central Site
7/10 - NGamer Magazine
6.3/10 - Game Informer Magazine
3.6/10 = IGN Site
Current Average = 6.5/10
Remove IGN's again and you get a 6.857 so a 6.9. Again the average of IGN's scores was a 6.3. IGN gave it the lowest score of any site out there that we know of. I feel that attests the game isn't bad after all, just this review. One reviewer said their 12 year old kids found the learning curve fine. 12 year olds find the difficulty less angering than Mr. Bishop?! What does that say about his supposed skill levels?! Or once again, is he just biased?
I think this game is good, no not great but a 6.6-7 sounds just about right, that's the average of the other scores and that's fair for this game. It's fun, and varied, with a great story. It could have been more colorful at some points and used maybe a minigame or two for interludes between fighting but it's a far cry from a 3.6!
I'm not trying to be an apologetic or a fanboy, I'm trying to be honest and sensible.
Krome put effort into this, this isn't just some cash cow or shovel ware. Get it for the epic and beautiful music alone! I can accept when a game is just plain bad that it gets a low score, I can admit when a developer...even if they're one I like...were lazy. Neither of those things are the case here. This review was awful and the reviewer had blatant subjective feelings before going in that I believe led to a bias and therefore low score.
I just find it deeply interesting that Matt and Mark would actually disagree with some other review, and a Spyro one no less!
Who was 'Sam Bishop', this review was the first I'd ever heard of him. After a Googling I found these other reviews by him.
7/10 - Freestyle BMX 2 (PS2)
7/10 - Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring (PS2)
4.5/10 - SWAT Target Liberty (PSP)
9.2/10 - Hot Shots Golf 2 (PSP)
6/10 - Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Tag Force 2 Review (PSP)
7/10 - CSI: 3 Dimensions of Murder (PS2)
4.5/10 - Super PickUps (PS2)
3/10 - Crusaders of Might and Magic (PS1)
5.5/10 - NASCAR 08 (PS2)
7/10 - Fireblade (PS2)
7.5/10 - CUBE (PSP)
8/10 - SingStar Rocks! (PS2)
Mmmh hmm.
Well not a very big amount but out of twelve games only one was lower than Spyro. I can't speak for these games as I've never played any of them but somehow I feel, even if I hated Spyro, that TEN was as good as or better than some of these. Call me crazy but it's just an inkling. Matt and Mark agree though, and discussed it in their latest Wii-centric podcast. Here's a summary of what they had to say:
- They didn’t review it, but they did play it and they think it deserved a better score.
- About the game visual-wise as the Gamecube game. Pretty good presentation and production values.
- Control is fine for what it was - nothing stand-out but nothing bad.
I felt the same about it.
To listen to the podcast with the discussion it it follow This link
Continuing my 'rant'...look at ALL the scores out there right now:
PS2
6.3/10 = Game Informer Magazine
6/10 = Games Radar Site
3.5/10 = IGN Site
6/10 = Game Daily Site
8.4/10 = GamingTrend Site
6/10 = Playstation 2 UK Magazine
7/10 = Geekpulp Site
Current Average = 6.2/10
Remove IGN's score and you get 6.6 for an average.
Interesting how if IGN averaged their scores this game would have been a 6.3
Let's take a similar look at the actual Wii Scores:
Wii
8.5/10 = Play Magazine
5.5/10 = Nintendo Wii FanBoy Site
6.7/10 = Game Zone Site
7/10 = BlogCritics Magazine
7/10 = Cheat Code Central Site
7/10 - NGamer Magazine
6.3/10 - Game Informer Magazine
3.6/10 = IGN Site
Current Average = 6.5/10
Remove IGN's again and you get a 6.857 so a 6.9. Again the average of IGN's scores was a 6.3. IGN gave it the lowest score of any site out there that we know of. I feel that attests the game isn't bad after all, just this review. One reviewer said their 12 year old kids found the learning curve fine. 12 year olds find the difficulty less angering than Mr. Bishop?! What does that say about his supposed skill levels?! Or once again, is he just biased?
I think this game is good, no not great but a 6.6-7 sounds just about right, that's the average of the other scores and that's fair for this game. It's fun, and varied, with a great story. It could have been more colorful at some points and used maybe a minigame or two for interludes between fighting but it's a far cry from a 3.6!
I'm not trying to be an apologetic or a fanboy, I'm trying to be honest and sensible.
Krome put effort into this, this isn't just some cash cow or shovel ware. Get it for the epic and beautiful music alone! I can accept when a game is just plain bad that it gets a low score, I can admit when a developer...even if they're one I like...were lazy. Neither of those things are the case here. This review was awful and the reviewer had blatant subjective feelings before going in that I believe led to a bias and therefore low score.
I just find it deeply interesting that Matt and Mark would actually disagree with some other review, and a Spyro one no less!
